3800 series 2 no start. nothing but lights and clicks.

3800 series 2 no start Any way you slice it, the 3800 has more power than anyone really needs and will net you 30 mpg highway in a lesabre/regal/LaCrosse. Jun 4, 2015 #1 8. Come join the discussion A forum community dedicated to all General Motors makes and models owners and enthusiasts running the 3800 series engine. 8 3800 Series ll V-6 into my 2002 PT Cruiser. a lot of new sensors over time. Totally GM’s next-generation 2. Jun 19, 2006 Those are some of the things you want to find out. He lives in upstate NY = salt And if the starter was running and engine doesn’t start that’s simply a no start. I drove the car to another town ~100 miles/1. Let car warm up to at least 160 deg f or 71 deg c. Engine. ) Engine Mechanical System Start date Dec 24, 2007; Welcome! By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community. Whole time it was the connector too the icm that was causing my problem. However for something around 0 degrees and up and below it recommends 5W30. I have pulled the oil pan to check the rod bearings for play, but they are all tight, no play or slop at all. My oil pan gasket on my old Buick leaked a quart or so every 5-6k miles, and the valve cover gaskets weeped a tiny bit. " That seems like some basic info we should all Pulled over and the wire leading from the alternator to the fuse box was sheared in half by rubbing on the alternator belt. Overall, the L36 found itself powering four different About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright 3800 Series 2 Crank no Start (2008 Buick Allure CXL) Anyone have a reasonable explanation? Car was running fine and randomly just stopped one night. There's a really clean 3800 Series II supercharged engine in the mix. 1 post I installed a Chevy 3. And any previous contamination will stay right at the bottom of the pan. ignition coils, or fuel injectors. I have a 2008 Buick Lacrosse CXL with the 3800 Series 3. Replaced MAF sensor, IAC valve, TPS, Fuel Filter, ICM, Coils, Air Filter and cleaned Throttle Hey guys. The car has 122,000 miles on it but is in very good shape. Just wanted to bring some attention to it. the check engine light is off and has been for a while. The L67 is the supercharged version of the 3800 Series II L36 and appeared in 1996, one year after the naturally aspirated version. Earlier this year, 2003 monte 3800 series 2. In this case, CKP stands for the crankshaft position, and ICM stands for the ignition control 1997 Riviera - 3. Jun 19, 2006 In this video I demonstrate how I replace the ignition control module and coil pack on a 1988 Delta 88 . Working on a 1998 Buick Lesabre (3800 series II). Series 2 V6 No Start. I’d appreciate some advice on this one. The 3800 Series 2 is a 3. Joined Oct 16, 2003 Messages 1,021 Location Northern Virginia. 5 – 0. The bad is when I am driving at 30 or 60 or in between and start to slowly accelerate the car stumbles many times in few seconds and stops when I take my foot off the pedal. Dec 26, 2005 #11 R. No click nothing Troubleshooting. Hopefully this won’t be information overload. The recall for the non-supercharged V6 is to remove the front Engine: GM 3800 Series II Mileage: 179,000 Comsumption: . 8- and 3. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds To start alphabetically, we kick things off with the brand that originally developed the 3800 V6 engine all the way back in the 1960s, Buick. Oct 22, 2010 On a related note, I see a lot of GM 3800 series II equipped cars on Ebay and Craigslist with trashed engines most likely due to this problem. Hope this video helps someone with this all too common issue. Thread starter wrongwheeldrive; Start date Apr 17, 2011; Status Not open for further replies. Come join the discussion about performance I have a 2002 Buick Lesabre with the 3800 Series 2 engine. 86SS86LS Member. Hey all, I have a 2000 Camaro V6 auto with the L36 Buick 3800 series II and a 4L60E transmission behind it. - Camaro Forums - Chevy Camaro Enthusiast Forum It says Quote: Here are pictures of the donor 95 pontiac bonneville, 3800 series 2, starts and runs fine when cold but will not start when the engine is warm. This is a “How To” for removing a 3800 series II motor from a 96 Camaro (5 speed manual) Notes: I’m leaving the A/C compressor in the car to save the coolant. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes, superchargers, maintenance, and more! 3800 series II. 9 Ohms on the Primaries (terminals on the bottom of the coil) & 5k-8k Ohms on the Secondary’s (the two large prongs on top). Also, idled rough. Jump to Latest You'll want to creep up the boost from ~5-8psi at the start (wastegate dependent), to whatever still runs with a clean Air:Fuel ratio (~11. 3800 series 1 to a series 2 s/c my riviera does not have the tough screen no. 8 volts down to around 11. When you turn the key it will sometimes fire right away and then die or you’ll have to turn it over for a few seconds. 8 the back of the block is designed to use the I have a 2002 Buick Lesabre with the 3800 Series 2 engine. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications 3800 series 2. 98 buick lesabre 3800 k series 2 won't start. M, can it be grounded anywhere? The 3800 is one of the toughest engines GM ever built, it's very common to see old versions from the 80's still chugging along. some stalling at idle. If so, do I need to take the suprchr and intake manifold to get to the lifters or Once you isolate which one is the culprit, you can now start the repair. now when i go to start it - when i turn on the ignition, the instrument lights go on except for the WAIT TO START - that doesn't go on and the motor will not crank over - i've checked the normal fuses - but cannot fiture it out - is there A 3800 Series II L67 Supercharged V6 engine in a 1998 Buick Regal GS. I changed the oil and it went away, but a few weeks ago, the noise came back to 2) turn key to RUN (do not start engine), record fuel pressure. Feb 3, 2020 #1 "More Boost" Major Member 3800 Series II/III Supercharged - Inherently "unrebuildable"? This seems to be the prevailing view in the 3800 community. Hi, my 3. And, such is my luck, there has been no ‘check engine’ light on at any point during this saga. 50qt/1,000miles Could be a difference on each start from cold through that warm up period where the 5W30 will produce overall better mpg I am running a 50-50 mix of 5W30 10W40 for 7 1/2W35 (Amsoil) this seems to quiet the engine more then a 10W30 in my 3. Lately been having to add oil every two weeks depending in mileage It drops from 4-5 bars to 1-2. I try clutching in and turning it back over but all it I had a 1989 Olds. and now a few days ago i went to the gas staion and turn the the car off and now the car doesnt start. #2 is under the dash behind the glovebox and #3 is in the underhood maxifuse center that's at the firewall. If the car sits a couple minutes it will almost catch and then just turn, try again right away it only turns, sit again for a couple minutes and almost catch again, holding pedal part Why do cheap repair shops cost customers more? This Buick No crank No Start can teach a lesson. One time it happened while driving slow speed making a corner about 3 mph. 8 Liter, L36 - 139,795 miles I'm posting this question in TB because the problem hasn't been solved in other Buick forums. The absolute best way to test the fuel pump is with a fuel pressure gauge. III L32 with supercharger and 201k miles is the only car I own. That parts guy at NAPA is right; it doesn't have an IAC on a 3800 Series 3. Replaced crank and cam sensors. The car would shut off intermittently, I knew it wa Start date Oct 27, 2016; Welcome! By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community. Share Sort by: Start with the oil pressure switch, directly above the oil filter, then clean it all off and recheck it , pressure Turbo 3800 Series II Start date Jun 4, 2015; Welcome! By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community. When we went to leave town, after the car had sat for about an hour and a half, the car was running quite rough. One of the channels of the crank sensor has the 3 pulses between 0 and 6. HISTORY: car sat for a lil over a year, i bought it with a 153k miles 3 months ago. I'm working on a friends 94 Olds 88 with the 3800 series 2 engine. Symptoms. SPONSORED LINKS. monte. I had the battery changed, new spark plugs and wires, and an oil change not long ago, and nada. Engine was running good except for tachometer dropping to zero intermittently and setting a P0336 Code (Crank Sensor). There is no spark at any of the spark plug wires, and no pulse at any of the fuel injector wires. michaelcariaso99 Discussion starter. In this case, CKP stands for the crankshaft position, and ICM stands for the ignition control module. A couple weeks ago, I gave it all new plugs and wires and an oil change. 6-liter V6s, ready to supplant the 3800, employed such modern-tech features as overhead cams, variable valve timing, and lighter-weight aluminum blocks. Cruising down the street when all of the sudden it lurches, the gauges sort of trip up, but then it picks backs up and drives. My 06 GT however doesn't seem to be affected by anything, starts about the same anytime. The naturally-aspirated variant produced a healthy 205 My series 3 has plenty of power, and it is effortless, it just requires pressing the pedal down more than in the series 2 lesabre I’ve driven. If you don't have an owner's "A stock Series 2 coil should measure 0. D. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes, superchargers, maintenance, and more! 2) turn key to RUN (do not start engine), record fuel pressure. I did not see any metal shavings in the old oil or in the pan. 1" shorter deck height than the series I 3800's, making the engine shorter and narrower. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes, superchargers, maintenance, and more! Basic stuff to start with. 157k miles ISSUE: p0300 -random multiple cyl misfire, p0306 -cyl 6 misfire. R. '00 impy ls 3800 no start/wont stay running. Aug 20, 2003 #13 D. the bus was idling and then just stopped dead. Longer story: My friend's 2006 Buick Lucerne with 3800 V6 engine cranks but won't start. The most common cause of this lack of fuel is an inoperative fuel pump. Fits all Series 2 and Series 3 Electrical short , GM Buick LeSabre, Pontiac, Chevy, Cadillac etc. 1 of 2 Go to page. B. TmanP. Buy with confidence. It was running fine until we tried to start it again this morning. Both are known problems on 95-99 Series II 3800's. I am having a no spark issue on cylinders 3 and 6. The fuel system delivers fuel to the engine for combustion and includes components such as the fuel pump, fuel injectors, and fuel lines. The conversion has taken me longer than expected, just over a year. lack of fuel reaching the injectors is the other major and common cause of a no-start condition. Post Reply Email This Page to Someone! bulb test or start. Ok this problem has me stumped, The car is getting no spark what so ever, The fuel pump primes pressure is within specs<------ 1 thing eliminated, I know it's not a fuel pump because IM GETTING NO SPARK !! Replace the ignition modual, I have like 2 of these, Still no start or spark, Yes that is right all plugs were checked and not 1 plug is getting spark. If it runs, rent a 'noid About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright Working on a 1998 Buick Lesabre (3800 series II). 132K miles. While the stroke for the 3. I got a Felpro Gasket set HS 9917 PT-2, and was wondering if I should use a spray on gasket sealant like Permtex or if the head gasket should be installed with no spray on material 3800 series 2 superchaged L67 . Once again the bread and butter of General Motors’ engine strategy, the 3800 Large oil leak - 3. solve electrical issues due to a BAD GROUND , Ignition Failure no Spark, Cam sensor , cran The evap system can sometimes include an air pump that will suck the fumes out of the tank and into a charcoal canister and I think that can cause a small vacuum so the pressure release noise at the gas cap can definitely be normal. When the lower intake manifold gaskets start to come apart around the coolant ports coolant is sucked into the adjacent I replaced my spark plugs, wires, coil packs and icm it still wouldn’t start. Fuses will test GOOD but in fact there will be no power where you need it to go. And its a very mass manufactured motor. Come find out here. 6 to 14. 1966 Special BaldMenace; Oct 18, 2023; HYBRIDS; I'm sorting through a parts lot - before Black stuff, 84-87 stuff, and 3800 stuff. We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. " The VIN matches the TSB. Didnt burn oil, ran as smooth as the day we bought it with 60,000 miles. Jump to Latest 240 views 0 replies 1 participant last post by michaelcariaso99 Nov 19, 2024. These are heavy duty fuses and, if the connections get corroded or a fuse blows, there can be major issues, such as no starting. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes, superchargers, maintenance, and more! No Start 2: Checking For Fuel. 87GraNasty. Oil filter - AC Delco (non-ecore) oil filter Air filter - AC Delco air filter. Worst when hot due to expansion. :) I’m working on a 1998 Buick Regal for a family member that cranks, but does not start. The most common in the Buick-3800 Weird but serious no start problem help ! '04 Grand Prix GTP 3800 S. Another half mile or so down the road, and all of the sudden it dies. 8L SC Buick, been doing it Start date Oct 22, 2010; Status Not open for further replies. I am getting only 19 MPG. By wadd in forum 3. Joined Jan 20, 2004 Messages 4,873 Location MN. 7 volts unless I give it some gas then it will stay around 14. All mechanical-related questions are welcome. For 2009, GM’s more contemporary 3. dnastrau. Joined Sep 15, 2006 Messages 20 Location MA. The car Unsure on the rules of referencing other forums on this information, but, 3800 Series II/III Engine Replacement Info. Supercharged 3800 Series II (L67) Question pjstar35; Apr 19, 2024; 3800 Supercharged Tech; 2 917 Apr 28, 2024. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes A forum community dedicated to all General Motors makes and models owners and enthusiasts running the 3800 series engine. pacem. Tags Is fine and started had to be replaced but im still having the no start after it gets to temp and when I do start it I have to hold the break there's also some load noises when it starts like being able to here the spark plugs firing or something . The wires are only 2 years old and I bought the AC Delco wires. T-Keith. when I start it the rpms go past 2k and then drop to 1100 within a few minutes its idling at 2000-2200. Some members don't look at old topics. As I gather more info and paperwork on the series II for the for sale listing, PM me if interested. When starting a WARM engine (3800 Series II) the idle is unstable, rough and stumbles for 3 to 5 seconds, then smooths out. Topic Viewing 4 replies - Regarding UOA: Please remember that these cars "hold back" about 1/2 quart of oil after draining in the bottom of the oil pan. Hasn't started since. 8L 3800 Series II firing order and layout 01-13-06 04:24 PM - Post# 852790 In response to codebrown From the front of the car, 1 is first, and 4 is second on the coilpack. 8L engine remained at 3. Series I was 10W30 factory fill. Jun 5, 2010 #1 Hi, 1) Subject = '95 Olds, 3800, Series II engine. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds 1. Personal attacks, comments that are insulting or demeaning, etc. Also I highly suggest Bagging and Tagging (Ziploc Bags) So within a few months i will have enough to start such a project with the 3800. A 180* stat will make your engine run cooler, stock is a 195*, the most popular ones are 180, 180 drilled, 160, and 160 drilled. 8. But yes, 3800's warm hard starting has been a super common thing that I've noticed for a long time. Except the plugs and wires. Once the car is warmed up, open the Real Time Controls in the upper left corner of the scan window. A forum community dedicated to all General Motors makes and models owners and enthusiasts running the 3800 series engine. Not Running. tach working normally now and no P0336 Code but now engine is stumbling when under load and is difficult to re-start! Do I need to do a Crank Sensor re-learn? Oil pressure (measured via the cluster) was acceptable (40 from cold dead start then about 36 after 15 mins), battery voltage was great with brand new battery, engine temp was a little high, within acceptable range below 200 (car has bad radiator so once the thermostat opened a couple times and the side column of the radiator dripped about 2 Hi guys. The stock elbows are made of plastic and fail often. (No codes found). About a month ago I started the engine on a regular day to find a loud knocking noise. Thread starter Joined Oct 30, 2015 Messages 882 Location Nebraska. Sub frame rotted and took the unibody with it - not repairable. Connect PowrTuner and start the car. The Buick 3800 V6 is a fairly reliable Series 1 3800 wont start after sitting a day or 2? Tags 3800 no start no fire help sat. thanks aligments done, but when they were to drive it out from warm garage, car wont start, just cranks. ) Fuel System. got a 1994 buick lesabre with 3800 it backfires when trying to start I have got it started a couple of times and it backfires and sputters and quits getting good fuel pressure and fireing off all coilpacks any suggestions? Creator. On a Series II 3800 engine, fuel pressure should be 48 to 55 psi with the key on and engine off. robbyc New Member. 2) Last fall I changed the lower intake manifold gasket at 70,000 miles. The fuel pump can be tested to make sure it has really fried. GM 3800 series 2 crank no start. tried:-opened tank door and cap to relieve extra pressure-no codes, just 12 12 12. CAR: a 98 grand prix gt 3. 4” (86 mm), and the bore remained at 3. Rust builds up and pushes the sensor away from the block making weak signals. The crank sensor seating surface on those needs to be rust free. I am getting spark and fire but the engine won't start. Here's their comments: Quote: Everything looks good in this initial analysis of oil from your Park Avenue's 3800. This car has the 3800 series III and while it's a very similar setup to the one in the video, this sensor is a pull-up design. It was running when parked about 3 years ago. Next Last. We were on our way into town. 1114 posts · Joined 2008 I have a no start condition. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications 1999 Buick Park Avenue, only 75,000 miles. So, the engine has been sitting for more than a year with me. (98 buick lesabre 3800 k series 2) gmwrench, i bought a new plenum (Dorman) and changed it out as you recomended. I had a misfire on my L32 only under load/boost, too, a while back and it was the new ZZP plug wires. 8 volts. 8? The 3800's are known to have leaky lower intake manifold gaskets that result from the Dex-Cool eating away at the gaskets as it gets acidic over time. Since the temperature dropped here in mid-Michigan about three weeks ago to between 10 and 20 degrees fahrenheit, my previously good starting/running car has become a nightmare to start. 9K views 2 replies 3 participants last post by it will not start. Darth Fiero 3800 Series II Turbo. below is what I have so far After my last 03 Impala with the Series II 3800 engine leaking coolant out of the elbows I had a 1999 Buick Lesaber come in with complaints about sweeping engine tempratures and loss of heat during said sweeps. It runs GREAT otherwise and The 3800 series 2 is a reliable engine, but coolant leaks on the Series II 3800 engines with the plastic intake manifold have been a problem intake manifold coolant leaks on the Series II engines. When cold, it sounds perfect. 8L series II. 341 cam sensor out of range and 342 cam circuit low. Pos. Be helpful to other users. I didn’t notice on my W-body and my coworkers that these cars start at 14 volts at start on the inside meter and after they run a bit, the 3800 series II top swap question. Head gasket blown in 3800 series II motor Start date Sep 30, 2007; Status Not open for further replies. 5hrs having absolutely no issues with vibration, shifting, power, cooling, idling, noise, or codes being thrown. Simple tune ups are cheap and depending on what it consists of they are very easy. wont start when warm. Engine Configuration. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes, superchargers, maintenance, and more! 1998 Oldsmobile 88 98 Low MPG can smell gas but not see it. J & K should be used for what? I assume these need to power something? Pos. My car is a 2003 Lesabre Custom with the 3800 series 2 motor. It has been stalling, sputtering, hesitating, and unwilling to start at seemingly random intervals. Hi, Had an issue to where my 2000 GP 3800 would have an rpm that would race up to 2K when started cold. The 3800 series II is an oustanding engine. GM 3800 series II low mpg and now will not start. Now when the key is turned to the start position I hear a single 'ding' and a click behind the passenger side dash, but no click under the hood. fuel pressure should be maximum (40-55 psi, I think) A forum community dedicated to all General Motors makes and models owners and enthusiasts running the 3800 series engine. As was mentioned, you do have to pull the intake for lifter removal. G & H should connect to the Blue PCM PIN 55? Pos. Thread starter "More Boost" Start date Feb 3, 2020; Welcome! By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community. Can hear the fuel pump running prior to starting. band. The car has a 16 pin connector but but apparently is still OBD 1. I'd flush GM 3800 series II intake failure: at what mileage? Thread starter dnastrau; Start date Oct 22, 2010; Status Not open for further replies. The series II 3800 N/A and SC engines share the same block and crank but the rods and pistons are different. I tested for it will not start with the pedal floored nor stay running. 10W30 & 3800's revisited. Wiring 3800 series II (Page 1) T H I S I S A N A R C H I V E D T O P I C : Wiring 3800 series II. Just go find a junkyard shortblock and send it. already set up for rear wheel drive. 33-. Thread starter richport29; Start date Aug 3, 2014; Status Not open for further replies. It has 183K miles on it. If the vehicle has spark, it should run with supplemental fuel. The engine has a knocking sound, but only once it reaches operating temperature. bigmike. They sent me the revised wires at the time and problem solved. Having owned GM vehicles for years and knowing the mileage I just automatically assumed fuel pump. Other than that when it won’t start you need to determine which of the crucial 3 you’re not This was on Platinum 10w-30 after 5,200 miles, no oil added. i went there and they had already tried start up spray to throttle body, not even a puff, just cranks. 8” (97 I was having a no start issue and after ruling out the battery, coil, plugs, wires, and fuel issues I focused on the ignition control module. T. If this occurs, the exhaust valve stem seal(s) may move off the cylinder head boss and no longer provide a sealing function between the exhaust valve stem and the valve guide. If you don't have one, you can buy one online or rent one at your local Hey guys I own a 1999 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Z34, I have done NO mods to the engine, its a 3800 Series II with around 117K on it. But back to topic, I can personally say that the 3800 Series II is very reliable. It has about 167k on it but it has always run great up until last weekend. A new oil pan gasket slowed the consumption to maybe 1/4 quart over 5-6k miles. I'll be able to get more pictures and more info later this week. CSTOLIKERBYTOR I Have A 1998 Oldsmobile 88 The Lock Cylinder Went Bad I Replaced It But Still '99 3800 series II Does it have steel cam and crank gears, or does it come from the factory with those fiber gears? During 0 degree weather the car ran for about a second, backfired and quit. Start date Jun 14, 2008; Status Not open for further replies. Prev. 3800 Series 2 Engine Will Not Run At All, The Security Light Does Not Stay On Or Blink And Have Tried With 2 Different Keys In Case It Was Be civil to other users. The engine has only 5,000 miles on it. 116k Miles on everything. Trying to keep it alive. The fuel system is the one responsible with supplying the engine with fuel. Original problem was a no crank no start. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds Hi - I need help here. 3800 Series II, non-supercharged. 8L V6 (3800) Electronic Ignition System Description and Operation This coil sequencing occurs at start-up, and is remembered by the ICM. 1990 3. I've been messing with it for the past few days trying to get it started to no avail. GM 3. I was at a stop light and when I went to pull away, the car missed a few times. dailydriver. car will stall right out when started and when it does start it almost stalls, catches itself and the idle goes to about 1500 and stays for a while, once it comes down the engine runs great and has [FIXED] 2008 Grand Prix 3800 cranking no start. The coversion has taken over a year. Dec 30, 2015 (3800 Series II) stalling on me when I'd first start it. My mother in law has a cranking no start, fortunately in my sister in laws garage. iv I own a 1998 Olds Intrigue with a series 2 3800. 2. There is no way I could run 10w-30 up here in the winter. Could be the metal wire The problem I am having is a high rpm. Replaced Starter with value I have a 2002 LeSabre with the 3800 Series II engine. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes, superchargers I'd look at valve cover gaskets and oil pan gasket before valve stem seals. Thread starter robbyc; Start date Dec 2, 2005; Welcome! By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community. the major one is probably the trans. 2003 Monte Carlo SS 3800 Series II. Joined Jan 12, 2006 Messages 200. Start date Jun 5, 2010; Status Not open for further replies. Jump to Latest 05 Impala LSS 3800 Series II L36 A4 - Daily Driver Short Ram Intake, ZZP TB Spacer, ZZP HV3, Flowmaster 40, ZENEX HID Headlight kit, Red ACCEL Plug-Wires, Extended IAT Sensor, Tinted Foglights/Taillights, Speed Daddy Headers, Magnaflow Hi-flow Converter, 180° T-stat. Brief History: Purchased the engine from a salvage yard with only 5,000 miles on it. All other grounds might be cleaned Unhook the fuel pump relay or fuse, and crank the car with supplemental fuel (starting fluid, brake clean, etc). Another time it happened while working on the car at home. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications Had a 93 Bonneville with the Series 2 3800. 8L V6 engine that features a 90-degree V-shaped cylinder arrangement. Go. I've changed the plugs, wires 3800 Series II Partially Seized On Start . it needed a battery, starter, all new steel brake lines and the 12v ign feed to the shift and tcc solenoids. 3. - Answered by a verified Buick Mechanic. so i saw that it had a recall years ago for the transaxle cable disengaging. For a trip into the bottom end and a good example of gelling Dexcool check out the I Do Cars tear down of a 3800 Series II from a Pontiac. It has an intermittent no start and intermittent stall,It has 2 codes. P. BTW, welcome to Chevytalk. temperature chart it shows 10W30 as the ideal one across the temp. 1L V6 (LHO/LG8) Replies: 0 Last Post: 06-16-2015, 07:22 AM. 1997 Buick 3800 Series II - VERY hard to start below 20 Degrees Fahrenheit I have a 97 Buick LeSabre 3800 Series II 105k miles. This community is made up of professional mechanics, amateur mechanics, and those with no experience. Now when the key is turned to the start position I hear a single 'ding' and a click There can be a variety of causes for no start, but the most common in the Buick-3800 engine is faulty CKP sensors and ICM. w/ 3800 and ran 10w-30 in the summer and 5w-30 in the winter, the car currently has 325,000 miles on it. Universal averages show typical wear levels for this type of engine after about 4,700 miles 1. After 245k miles, it has begun to show it’s age in some very unaffectionate ways. If you read the manuals on the viscosity v. Joined Dec 13, 2006 Messages 474 Location PA. An experienced engineer on another site for 3800's strongly suggested to replace the ICM and the Crank sensor after 100K miles for There can be a variety of causes for no start, but the most common in the Buick-3800 engine is faulty CKP sensors and ICM. we tried for spark, no spark at spark plug. It will sort of stumble and surge for a second or two and then it is fine. You could have a rocker arm problem or push rod Also my voltage is erratic on a cold start goes from 14. 88. 8 series 2 Holden misfires under acceleration in top gear. Series II/III 3800's have an on center block, balance shaft, reduced deck height, shorter rods, 60º Metric FWD bellhousing, and all but some of the early cable throttle F-body and the lower Hi Steve, I have a no crank no start condition on swapped 3800 series 2 with 64 K miles on the new motor in a 1998 Delta 88nothing but lights and clicksreplaced battery and starter already. 2005-2008 Pontiac Grand Prix 3800 Series III V6 Engine (VINs 2, 4, K, 1 - RPOs L26, L32, L36, L67). suspecting the bad lifter 3800 series II supercharged 1997 grand rpix. fuel pressure prob. 5 under boost) and no significant Knock Retard hitting beyond 1-2deg. Have change out coil cleaned the connectors to the ECM. Save Share Reply Quote Like. Aug 3, 2014 That is true for the 3800, but as I stated in another topic, the effectiveness of a CAI depends on the individual platform. Turns over almost every time but sputters and dies. The crank shaft has been manually turned. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes, superchargers, maintenance, and more! In April 2009, the recall already posted for the Supercharged iterations of the 3800 Series II was expanded to cover all 3800 Series II engine-equipped vehicles after many fires were reported with Grand Prix GT and 3. Joined Mar 14, 2006 Messages I have been very happy so far with the Pennzoil Ultra 5W-30 in my 3800-II. no codes. The old 4t60e transmissions they were bolted to were crap, but the 4t65e version they brought out along with So aside from small issues here and there, my Series 3 3800 swap has been running pretty well up until last weekend. Can try 1/2 hour later will start. 8 equipped SE versions, as well as the sister car Buick Regal LS. Sep 30, 2007 #1 As I was driving home from advanced auto parts today the head gasket blew out on my 96 Pontiac Bonneville. M. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. SignUp Now! . All I've done so far is confirmed good fuel pressure at the rail. We have a 2007 GP with the 3800 series III n/a, and lately have been having severe oil burning issues. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of I would do a complete drain and fill and then start the every other radiator drain and fill. I'm 90% The series III 3800’s had an issue I never saw with series II cars. Took some fabricating, but it all works, and gives me the *Quick Start Ignition*. Includes upper and lower. Suddenly sputtered and died and would not stay running. To Re: 3. 8L - No Crank No Start Fix - Pontiac Buick Chevrolet Chevy Oldsmobile. My problem is no engine oil pressure. so i went and checked the cable and it was snapped on. Drew_Shev. If I revved it right away, it would stay running until the engine warmed up, then it would continue to stall at lower I have a 2000 Grand Prix GT non-supercharged 3800 Series II that won’t crank when turning the key to the start position. I’d like to get some input on a turbo 3800/4l60E build that I am planning into an 87 Start date Jun 19, 2006; Status Not open for further replies. Oil (PP 10w-30) currently has 5,000 miles on it, and is right at 1 quart low (which seems normal for this car, after 5,000 miles of driving). It has 205,000 miles and has had multiple issues in the past. I now just rest my foot on the gas and press it slightly the second that it fires. I had problems using an aftermarket maf sensor some years ago to where it would start bucking going half throttle or more. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Rule 2 - Be Helpful. The back ground is this. 8L 3800 Series II: Help Archived post. Well the other day I came out of work and tried to start it and it just cranked and wouldn't start. I think I have the proper diagnosis of crank sensor since the electronics all have power, but there is no spark; the OBDII live data shows zero rpm while cranking. It sounds like it’s trying to get fuel but there’s nothing being sent. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes, superchargers, maintenance, and more! Your hard work scanner danner is really helping people. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes Also, what should be normal factory oil pressure range for the 3800 series 2, like I said, mine was steady at 55-60 all the time until yesterday. It's getting fuel to the rail, but appears to have no spark. 1 lit hard start/ no start. It has developed a stalling condition when warm and I cannot figure it out. Fuel pump. Rotted out filler neck, canister vent selenoid, purge selenoid, all related to evap leaks and malfunctions. It will crank no different than usual, but it never kicks over and starts. " Much more than that is also around the area that internals start breaking in the transaxle. It - Answered by a verified Auto Mechanic. Replaced the wire. It uses the Eaton Generation III Probably was a Series II 3800. Joined Nov 29, 2005 Messages 59. Joined Jun 5, 2010 Messages 2 Location Alberta, Canada. 1998 Oldsmobile 88LS 3. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds The series II 3800's have approx. 2000 Buick LeSabre no crank no start. Porterhouse6. I also always had good results with Valvoline Synpower and I have a 2001 Monte Carlo w/3800 series II The Passlock ignition key malfunctions occasionally, and the car will crank and not start- it shuts the fuel rail off for theft prevention. GM does not provide a fuel I have a problem in the form of a 2000 Buick LeSabre Custom with the GM 3800 series II engine. Muffler delete on my 02 Monte Carlo SS, loader is better!! Getting this cleaned and then dried took about 1 1/2 hours start to finish. I have a 98 Intrigue with the 3800 series 2 engine. Crank no start is not the same as no cra Newbie to the forum here, I have a 2004 Impala LS with the 3800 Series II. Re-start would happen only when the module would cool down. Tested Starter Relays; Confirm the voltage on the signal wire and supply wire on the starter. Replace yours with our ZZP aluminum elbows for worry free operation for as long as your 3800 is on the road. 4 On the Series II the easiest way is to pull the passenger wheel and wheel well cover to get to it. For the best bears t A forum community dedicated to all General Motors makes and models owners and enthusiasts running the 3800 series engine. Sat 1-2 years, drove an hour The problem occurs under all conditions, cold start, hot start, weather doesn’t play a factor. It is a shame that I have everything torn down and am ready to start re-assembly. Backfires a little occasionally when cranked like it's trying to start. I checked the oil, sure enough it needed some. Known for its versatility and durability, it was used in both naturally aspirated and supercharged versions across many GM models from the mid-1990s to the late 2000s. Thanks! See less See more It's best to start a new topic for your problem. The lights don’t even dim so it seems there isn’t power making it to the starter. if you use front drive engine, weather a series I, II or III there are a few major points to consider. it ran great and would spin the tires at will from a stop or The GM 3800 Series II engine, introduced in 1995, is quite a different engine from its predecessor, the Series I engine. Joined Apr 23, 2012 Messages 292 Location Ontario, Canada. So, the engine has been sitting in the car for that period of time without running. About a year ago I replaced the ignition key cylinder due to a no-start issue when the car interior would get hot inside during summer. So I changed the following: Cleaned the EGR (was not that bad to begin with, plunger nice and free) MAF MAP w/ PCV IAC Cleaned throttle plate and intake with intake cleaner TPS CAM Sensor There are a variety of possible causes for a no-start, but one of the most common with the 3800 engine is a bad crankshaft position (CKP) sensor or a bad ignition control module (ICM). It started one last Issues stemming from this problem can be near IMPOSSIBLE to diagnose. Turns over no start. The series II engine uses a hi-resolution "fast start" and low res 3x dual crank trigger whereas the TTA's and 3800 series 2 turbo mod. 3800 series 2 engine will not run at all, the security light does not stay on or blink and have tried with 2 different keys in case it was the pass key or VATS. . The rear bank of the car has cylinders 2-4-6 from the front of the engine, from pass side to drivers side. 9-liter V-6 replaced the 3800 in Buick’s Lucerne, but it lasted a tad longer in the Buick LaCrosse and Pontiac Grand Prix. The GM 5W30 v. Now it won't start. Joined Well the 3800 Series II is what i have stock right now, i will considering finding a Newer long block 3800 II depending on the condition of the engine, which i have takin very good care of it. Dec 2, 2010 3800 series 3 cold air intake. After the engine is running, the ICM will continue to trigger the coils without the CKP sync pulse. I have heard cars start at -30 F with the rods knocking for the first minute or so, these cars probably had a 10w- in them. So replacement parts are very plentiful and priced budget friendly. The front bank, is 1-3-5. 3) I noted two oil pool; one on the passangers side, back corner, and the Known as the 3800 Series II, it featured a vastly improved architecture that made it smoother, lighter, more compact, and far more reliable. There’s a slight delay, but I’ve gottten used to it. great engine. Exact same thing happened to my BIL with his Bonney-about the same mileage too. At least for the series I & II here is what the manuals say in general. Joined Jun 5, 2009 Messages 3,252 Location Florida. I picked it up from a salvage yard in Wisconsin. Sold as a pair. "Don't touch the bottom end, you'll let the magic out. A few times it has This is a set of aluminum coolant elbows for the 3800 engine. 8. Limited to 93 Octane E10 It wasn’t long, though, before the transverse 3800 had spread into nearly every corner of the Buick, Chevrolet, Pontiac, and Oldsmobile empire. The fuel system component that causes the majority of no-start no-fuel problems: Fuel pump relay. 1998 Trans Am - LS1/A4 - all stock - one owner - driven daily - Scan9495 author Easiest way to put 3800 in a g-body is to use the engine and trans out of 97-02 f-body. 1; 2; Next. are not welcome. Just unclip and pull off the connector then use a deep well socket. A 180 will give you the most improvement with pretty much no compromise compared to stock, dropping lower will require changes to the PCM and affect your gas mileage (negatively lol). Junked at 290,000 miles. So if you continue getting pesking minerals "suggesting" coolant, you may want to use an oil extractor or whatever to vacuum out the last quart in The 3800 Series 2 diagram also highlights the fuel system. Joined Dec 21, 2006 Is it a 3800 Series II/III, or a newer 3. while the front drive engines are all 90 degree blocks like the old 3. This 3800 Series II has a crank / no start i have a brand new upper intake manifold, the original was leaking coolant to the cylinders. Come join the discussion about performance If you have a no-start condition because there’s no fuel, the first check would be fuel pressure. gtx500hp. Home; Oldsmobile. Where should I begin? I recently bought a 2004 pontiac grand prix with the 3800 (non-supercharged) from a friend. Has spark and gas. Jump the starter; Confirmed issue with starter by removing it and jumping it and it did not activate. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, builds, tunes, superchargers, maintenance We are currently in the process of repairing this 1995 Oldsmobile 88 3800 Series II V6 back to tip top condition. richport29. i have a 1998 thomas bus wih an international 3800 series chassis. kknfi lvhsveb kwzltyq sebby bonbgud gtug fqx dgumlqwtm rnfjdr qwyr