Kpop fans are toxic reddit. there are toxic stans everywhere.
Kpop fans are toxic reddit It is about how BTS are placed on a pedestal by many kpop fans and treated as 'superior' to It doesn't sound like she's a toxic "kpop fan" per se, but it does sound like she's a little insecure and trying very hard to fit in. i remember when a group of toxic atinys tried to get things like “yeonjun pig” and “yeonjun fat” trendingit always goes both ways. I was a shy kid growing up but it developed I definantly have run into more toxic fans of other fandoms than my own, especially on reddit where Im more active on But like every kpop fan and armys i have run into in real life have all definitely agree! i’ve been on kpop twitter since 2017 and while it can definitely get toxic if a whole fandom gets worked up over something, it’s still not as bad as when reddit or tiktok get worked Lotta toxic fans. I don't have any kpop Personally, I think one of the reason these subs have less people is because not all kpop fans are interested in these types of discussion, particularly online where there are a lot of bad faith arguments or bad faith interpretations. the kpop fans were just saying hi to each other This is exactly it. There are "toxic fans" of political figures, sports figures, twitch streamers, western popstars, authors, actors & actresses, . Also Please pick a group that has some sort of big following, of course i know there is misogyny everywhere, but this is a kpop subreddit, soo yeah edit: i’d just like to clarify that i misunderstood the situation a little, the anger directed to joy had to do with I agree. Most people in the bands are generally hardworking and modest. I think a lot of kpop fans (especially younger ones) are more sensitive (on So Wonyoung has a specific mindset and she is very beautiful and confident. But kpop fans act like this because the kpop industry goes out of its way to make everything seem perfect. especially those with a strong following and especially bts members but all of them in Especially early teens who think racism and other horrible things are actually funny/joke about. Skz has the biggest fandom in 4th gen, so of course they have the most toxic fans 160 votes, 38 comments. Btw i dont give a damn about I try to not let the toxic fans get to me when I find them. I’m glad she left the fandom but really hate Stay doesn't need to talk about bts because they have enough with skz and they respect bts. MYs weren't exactly the biggest fandom just when they started, most of them were casual listeners/gp Kpop does not have to be an absolute immersive experience, and it is so possible for you to take a step back, appreciate your group, and find new friends who are much healthier for you. Of course there will be toxic fans that argue on Twitter or wherever!, as in all fandoms, but let's Because for some reason, kpop seems to attract the crazies lol. With regards to kpop, And as a person who used to be a kpop fans back in my teens and early 20s,i can confirm yes kpop is really overrated. People aspire to be like her. Kpop stans can be toxic, but Chinese fan bases take toxicity and cyber bullying to a whole new level. One person says something innocently online and other "good fans" get Well as a army yes toxic fans do exist there are a lot but there are a lot of good fans too. Some very known accounts on twitter with tons of followers had their personally i think it is not such a big deal in particular with jungkook and many idols are like this imo. Take an all-girl kpop group. They try to So you end up with people who don't like these fandoms and by extension don't like their group. I'm a older fan who just got back into K-pop and don't View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit. my only rule is if I notice someone I follow Hmm i don't know but like i kinda observe that some kpop fans fighting over dumb reasons like? how small minded they are. However, View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit. If you take away that visual part, it's not kpop. Compared to football/soccer, most kpop fans seem pretty tame. Everyone on the sub is very wholesome and enthusiastic and they mainly love the music. Good chance is that they're mostly young, they want to gain attention, they have low self esteem or Netizens are calling out a toxic sub-community in BTS ‘s fandom. If you avoid controversial videos like the one you mentioned, there's lesser chances of meeting a toxic fan. I am not defending these stays but this is That's not the only reason why people would hate k-pop so much. It's like a herd mentality. (and I sound extremely needy so I'll stop) I have been an ARMY for over two years now, I am a multi Years ago if you told there would be a time in kpop where fans never heard of GD or bigbang, i would have laughed in your face. I don't know but for me its kinda weirding me out like, it seems People still remember kpop fans calling Army mean n toxic right, Blink mean n toxic right, wizone mean n toxic right, Orbit mean n toxic right, Sones mean n toxic right, once mean n toxic right Let's be real. They make others feel like "ugh, what is wrong with this person" and this will make them stay away from I joined kpop twitter last year because I was new to kpop and none of my friends listened to it, so I wanted to find people with common interests. Here are 5 K-pop fans do not shy away from this idea; cancelling idols and fans alike has become very common on Twitter. Yet no one bats The fan wars started because atinys saw a tweet that was like how come gidle and txt have small venues when even ateez got bigger venues. The “Ifans are so much better!” No, they aren’t. New fans think they're the "new frontier" when it comes to targeted marketing. The whole reason for some group’s dating ban is so they seem available to their fans which Toxic fans are looking for a group to belong to because they often times don’t have one in their real lives so once they find belonging in a kpop fandom, they become ultra-defensive over the I've not had that mentality before, neither have I met any kpop fans in real life who's toxic. i recently saw a 1d fan and a kpop hater talking shit about kpop and tbh none of the kfans said anything to those two. I don't know her personally, but it could very well be that she sees There's a higher male to female fans in anime fandom + anime is often associated with attractive female characters for guys to lust over or too violent for girls to watch. But many people active in kpop spaces are people who hate it so why are we surprised by how the dynamics of this space Shipping at most is found with the fans of new gen actors, like Jhanvi - Kartik, Tiger-Disha etc and is still not as obsessive. This is a problem because there is a difference between talking about "winning" I've also always had the thought that the parasocial relationship specifically between the kpop idols and the fans is a different kind of parasocial relationship between other celebrities and I know every fanbase has obsessive fans, but I've known crazy Bieber stans in like 2011, I've known Barbs in 2013, and I've known crazy Ariana stans in 2019, but none of them have even come close to the insane obsession of the Kpop Toxic fans to me were defined almost as crazy fans, fans with no sensibilities and who are the first to throw morals out the window for their faves. there are toxic stans everywhere. Hey guys! So I'm new to Kpop, I've been an Army and Atiny for just a couple of months. I’m just saying that kpop idols are not your friends, and you do not know them. It's unfair to think that they do not ever give credit to the other nationalities that have I have one account to follow fan artists and one where I actually tweet and interact with other fans and it’s not hard to keep my both my feeds clean. Also why didn't those other kpop idols call out their fans when I wish I could upvote this comment multiple times! That's not to say "Parasocial relationships" doesn't exist, but it has become another buzzword for a lot of Kpop ifans, especially on Reddit, Ehh a lot of saesangs tend to be adults, so while toxic minors can be dealt with there’s a huge amount of kpop fans who aren’t children. Even before in the 1st and 2nd generation of kpop there were still fan wars (yes, in I know that when a fandom gets bigger toxic fans increases but it's not even a year since their summer cb and those toxic stays are getting active. One good example of a group that (I personally feel) 30 votes, 24 comments. Sadly,the negative factors receive the I figured. And for someone to go to a fan meet, they are usually a fan with a more I’m talking about the people who just don’t like bts or even those who try even make a lighthearted joke about them (again not the racist ones). This annoyed atinys cause people have been I know diving into a kpop group means being exposed to some toxic fandoms and fan wars, so I wanna know in your opinion, which fandoms are the most “unproblematic”? I mean fandoms I think when people say toxic they don’t mean streaming itself but the culture surrounding it. Kpop idols need to speak up more . Korea is pretty infamous for Agkae is usually the term (for those who are toxic), but so many people calling themselves solo stan/fan have a tendency to be toxic to other members that the definition kinda blurred As idols who spent a portion of their lives training, it’s just unfair to them to get absolutely nothing for them to give to their fans and i think it’s justifiable for their fans to raise concerns. I also am very careful with my wording when posting kpop opinions online so toxic fans can't twist my words 😅. imo, yeonjun probably A lot of kpop fans are women but there are male fans who are gg stans and are very misogynist and hateful as well. The mindset of the modern Kpop fan is that Kpop > Jpop, I think this Korean beauty standards thing gives kpop fans an easy way to do two things: Praise their idols, because it’s one thing for your fave to be beautiful in your own eyes, or in fans tbh, i’ve seen forums from china discussing this matter and the vast majority agrees that blind (toxic blinks) are toxic and the main reason is because blackpink tend to have higher On the other hand, Chinese fanbases are really really intense. Probably even worse. Kpop reddit is like those people who think they are better than everyone when In reality they are just as bad. However, The toxic ones clearly don’t respect that or anything else in life even & have resorted to becoming bullies, the very people who came after BTS when they were starting up. If you want to continuously drag other groups through the mud don't be surprised when Company stans will drag other company stans for the worst company stans. I can ID toxic South Asian fans from the pattern of speech or references, there are plenty of them on Reddit too, and YT comment sections, Twitter and IG - but people default to Fan Wars. More fans means more loud/aggressive/awful fans simply due to the numbers. many I’m a fan of both kpop and western acts and honestly kpop stans on twitter are cupcakes compared to western ones like I thought kpop was toxic but western stans will bully everyone Kpop leaves no room for actual discussion. I Now, there are some groups that have a larger fandom, but also a lot less toxic fandoms. I’ve been a fan of bts for a few years now and a kpop fan for longer, but I still don’t understand I’ve been a Kpop stan since 2018, Reddit iOS Reddit Android Reddit Premium About Reddit Advertise Blog Careers Press. it’s sad that this happens tho Related Reddit Ask Online community Social media Mobile app I know it's not all sunshine and rainbow in this fandom because just like every groups we have some curses like toxic solo Stans who doesn't like other members and toxic fans who hates Coachella is a serious achievement for all, not just kpop groups and should be treated as such by everyone. I'm not saying older fans can't be toxic stans but from what I've seen on twitter, IG, and youtube, most of the ones being toxic are the immature younger I’ve seen a lot of one-sided criticism towards popular groups on Reddit because in Twitter you get ratioed by their bigger fanbases. Which may be true in the internet, but if you have Kpop friends in real life they are quite nice and fun! And overall they’re Sports fans are insane and get extremely passionate, and there are many examples of said fans getting a little _too_ passionate, that may result in violence or verbal abuse. but some people love giving clout to You don't seem to understand how communities work. No need to compare with another idol, if you're I do kinda see similarities between toxic kpop and toxic anime fans, actually- because kpop fans definitely do this too, Oh, i was trying to be condescending, i just don't have friend that listen Please don't remove me from this subreddit for being a KPop fan, I love this subreddit. While I try to understand that k-pop without fans the money doesn't exist, I actually Unpopular because ive seen lots of people openly hating Korean fans online (YouTube, TikTok, etc). I know some end up being toxic and crazy fans, but this I have seen different posts about how kpop impacted people’s life positively, so I want to do something different. (I'm in my early 30's just for context) completely Not sure on a group, but the stereotype that Kpop fans are toxic. tons of fansites are ran by adults who have their own I disagree, because there's a reason to every problem. Armys have a mix of toxic fans, superiority complex fans, and vitcim And many international fans engage in the same weird entitlement to idols and their personal lives like you mentioned (which I 100% agree with), so another point I’m making is it’s not fair to be And by kids, I mean those ages 12-18. Fans make idols (and themselves) into perpetual victims that It seems like there's a lot of immature Twitter Kpop fans that have migrated to Reddit because these weird accusations against the majority of older kpop fans never used to be popular on I have a friend who used to be a fan of EXO but became an anti fan after the members left and after knowing that Baekhyun was dating Taeyeon. Like, you’re absolutely normal in that regard, but I’ve seen so many fans be incredibly toxic when it and the ‘reputation’ is also bad because a lot of people love giving toxic army the attention and spread it around. i've been seeing an influx of comments on social media on much they don't care if their favorite idols are dating. Most popular kpop song have ridiculous lyrics. But the larger fan-base are dogmatic, cliquey philistines. The culture is toxic because toxic strategies bring in the most money. All fandoms have toxic people but the Kpop industry perpetuates and thrives on it’s toxic fans. Case and point, if you look First of all,the larger a fanbase gets,the more the amount of deranged bozos in it. Many of these kpop fans of any group are toxic when they want to be. Stay away from reddit and go back to twitter. I've even seen We all know most kpop fans are attracted to the members of the groups they like, let’s not pretend that isn’t the case. The only thing I disagree here is that some fans really haven't met a toxic fan. You can’t know actual demographic of Kpop Also, group fans are heavily attacked by akgaes in the cfandom. For me, I became unsociable. Kpop redditors pride themselves on being "truthful", "non-biased" and "level pop is definitely toxic. For example: Stays, Monbebes, and NCTzens. If you've experienced fandoms besides kpop, Once I let it overtaken my life, we get frustrations and unnecessary stress. Kpop idols don't interact as much cuz of netizen hate cuz most western fans don't I'm a multi-fan so I'm involved in a lot of different kpop fandom spaces. But considering their miliatry hiatus was like 7 freakin years I can understand why they slipped the radar, but yea I’m not saying that every fan I toxic but the major fanbases of major groups have shown to be a force to be reckoned with if you disrespect their groupand because BTS and BlackPink are I can't really say that new kpop stans are toxic because there's toxic fans everywhere in every fandom. The toxic fandoms also shy away new listeners once they dive deeper into fandoms because If you want to know kpop reddit view you can read others rant in that megathread or just click the bts/army flair to read any related rants abt bts/army. Believe it or not, my pool of friends and colleagues do not even know who BTS nor Blackpink is, much less SKZ, Within kpop the vibe is you feel like you can't just dislike an artist, you are kind of expected to keep cordial about every artist. They’re the major consumer of Kpop and all the bad stereotypes However I needed to take a break from Kpop starting somewhere in 2019 until ca. These days I watch YouTube videos (and avoid comments) and just look on the main reddit subs (kpop, kpopthoughts), and while there are the occasional overzealous fans it’s And the threads being in Eng doesn’t matter that much, cause most 4th gen know at the least some basic level of Eng, and they most likely will want to know what the international side of There are many kpop fans in India though, almost all my friends are associated with kpop or kdramas in some way. I think we've all been noticed that kpop fans are becoming more toxic than I know I am late to the thread, but OP, fan wars are common in KPOP Majority of KPOP fans are nice, only the minority are toxic, however the minority are the most vocal Real kpop fans let Ive been in this kpop shit long enough To witness fandoms behaviors. The teenage fans. People like to forget that the vast majority of fandoms consist of mostly decent people and there is only a small percentage that there’s toxic fans on literally every platform, but on some it’s easier to manage and avoid them. Even now I rarely see toxic fans. true. The Girl you sound weird asf - if that’s the case then we need to blame every kpop idol for they fans being dvmmys on these apps- And I know you definitely lying about the j**boo situation because if I remember clearly Lisa Stan’s (who aren’t The “Coachella isn’t that great anyways” argument doesn’t hold up, either. Kpop idols can be someone's escape from reality and so it becomes their world. Every fandom has their toxic fans, ARMY is a big fandom so more toxic fans, you get it. There is also the 4th and 5th cathegories: Channels that do focus on the technical aspects and explain things(i. Western kpop fans project way so much on idols and its getting annoying, they treat the idols as if they were born and raised in US or I think current generation focus more on singer appearance than their songs. Kpop or not. Fandoms will drag other fandoms because of what the most extreme fans are doing to them. The competitive While most K-pop artists avoid talking about toxic, harmful behavior displayed by so-called fans, some have been vocal in calling out fans crossing their boundaries. I’m not saying that they are completely innocent but for every bad take they have, I'm not saying that fans are expected to consider to consider an idols heath ( why should that be a priority of a consumer at all ). I cannot shred off the feeling of becoming a money making machine Got7 Jackson calling out a toxic fan for shoving his fan to the ground BTS Jimin would cut ties with someone who speak negatively about his members/brothers Stray Kids Bangchan said Sorry but isn't it almost major reason behind kpop success and why people join kpop fandom is due to looks? Looks play huge part in Kpop. If you don't show exactly equal bias (or even if you do), you are said to be a XX hater. Weirdly, people here start trending ship names after a couple is in a I do not have anything against them as people or artists in any way and this post is not about that. Of course it’s more serious to kpop fans - because it’s more serious to kpop artists trying to break into the western But kpop reddit is "smaller" so it is admittedly harder to avoid dumb comments. they just have less For Reddit I only see them once in a while and actually see more anti-Kpop people than toxic Kpop fans. i find it so annoying and so toxic with the way As a fan of both, disclaimer: Kpop fans can be among the most vile and toxic fandoms on Earth, so don't mind too much about them. They more focus on making a catchy song. Group fans learn to become quiet and there aren’t really more toxic fans tho. But when fans say things like " I hope they're doing well and that False. I think a lot of them think kpop went from Korea As a kpop fan who's also Korean and was raised here, I've seen both sides very clearly. of this reason. Her performance truly make a bad image of KPop. mhj thing has made me realize that even on reddit, kpop fans refuse to think in anything besides kpops so toxic I totally agree with you and it also annoys me so much. As somebody who is a part of Wonyoungism myself, there is a toxic side and a good I mean, Kpop (and more broadly Korean) beauty standards have been the subject of documentaries, multiple articles, and kpop/kpoprants discussions. Maybe not more than the fans, but there are some No K-Pop fan wants to be generalized and put in the category of "little 12 year olds toxic fans", but at the same time a seemingly huge amount of toxic fans generalize the whole fandom. But really, these people were toxic in their own life or in other fandoms before they were toxic in kpop. There's still fanwars, harassment, doxxing and bullying. On March 18, Reddit user @ okaywhatttt on the community r/ kpop_uncensored compiled a list of photos of The list includes calling the idols’ personal phone numbers, hacking their social media accounts, stalking their idols’ group, overcrowding at airports, and in more extreme instances Most fandom you interact with online, especially huge ones like Kpop, will have a ton of rude people. I have been into K-pop and K-dramas in those days but eventually moved on, then i started finding kpop This is not just for BTS too. The problem is many fans, are sometimes too obsessive, toxic, etc. I don't even find the term "scared of KPOP fans" as something to boost my I feel like a lot of it is coming from new kpop fans outside Asia that are unaware how popular kpop is in SEA. In some cases, fans go as far as sending death threats over song discourse or directing massive pile-ons for Toxic K-pop fans can be reported to police for harassment or threats. Which results in kpop I’m not saying that all idols’ interaction with fans is toxic. twitter is a lot more of a free-for-all and things get a lot more visibility so it’s easier to see the Hah, I specifically had to search out non-toxic reddit subs just to make a nice internet for myself! I don't think it has anything to do with China. If the toxic people can just log off, go outside, touch grass & i just hate how fandoms try to root out solo fans, even non-toxic solos that just enjoy the content of a select member w/o putting the other members down, but it feels like there's not an equivalent push to stop toxic OTgroup fans. I Yeah, American entertainment is the same way. I think within fandoms, toxic stans have the most So then the trope became "angry music but happy people". like even if 5% of all armys are toxic, that’s a HUGE number of people spreading hate on the A place for kpop 'fans' meaning people who actually 'like' kpop. I don’t want to make it seem like it’s an age/experience factor and generalize fans who are still in school since there are a lot of toxic adult fans out there who could be acting this way All Fandom has a little toxic trait non is innocent, some people purposely attack KPOP for political reasons and that I know and am sure off am not justifying any recklessness of any toxic fan Fans treat kpop like sports (it doesn't help that there are 6 music shows every week to compete for 1st place). it’s just a small percentage of a really large fandom. It just so happened that ARMY is a huge group and really, the most toxic kpop fanbase I have ever encountered in That is why MANY people find kpop community as "toxic" because of something like this and some are now terrified to even mention a kpop group or fandom. Any criticism is seen as being hateful and wanting to bring that particular idol down. So thats who I think is the most chill/mature kpop fandom, as of now is. also not every fan but there's a lot of toxic fans on twitter To be honest, Kpop reddit and Kpop Quora are just as bad as Kpop Twitter whether people want to admit that or not. Whether people like it or not, having single ladies in the group Once BTS had that festa dinner that is kind where I started seeing toxic fans. The place where i come from is where kpop started getting popular first ( in india) . Armys are not the most toxic and blinks are actuallly one of the most shitty toxic fandom. Cliché but toxic fans are small parts of the fandom but the loudest and every single group that has a decent following will have toxic people in their except ifans do the exact same thing when given the chance This is not about kfans vs ifans it’s about obsessive fans. . It’s also screenshots on twittter from other amazing fans who are not toxic. I knew it would be toxic because it’s twitter and I honestly think this goes both ways. But my experience with armys is so different. as This is like the exact premise of indie music, indie movies, of kpop reddit vs kpop twitter. No one kpop fan is better than the other. Another thing I've noticed is among (young) teenagers too many are I don't agree with the fact the bigger the fandom, the more toxic it is (which kpop fans usually use to excuse the fandom behaviour). Lol this made me laugh though. I’m a Stay and I don’t really engage in kpop social media apart from Reddit and a small discord I feel you OP. There's a lot of things K-Fans do that I don't agree with and things I-Fans do that is equally as bad like I haven't seen a single toxic KISSY on reddit tbh. Though there’s a culture difference. at this point im just a It all comes down to money. But when kpop artists collab with western artists it feels like a But Kpop fans are incapable of understanding that the world is the hybe v. The toxic minority is always more vocal than the chill majority. Also I think a good portion of the kpop fans online are young, and kids on social media these days are just miserable dicks. I think this I'm just someone who has been fan of KPop since gen 2, and there is a standard. Plus most people do seem newer to Kpop in If you're worried about toxic stans just stay away from twitter and instagram fan pages, try to make irl kpop friends (or ones from reddit/tumblr they seem to be a little bit more reasonable than And that should be the standard. As in it's easier to "bury" 1 stupidly toxic comment under 1000s of comments on twitter than under ~50 comments Note: I think Twitter is a different story because you have toxic stans and antis who will say anything but I am MAINLY referring to reddit fans of music genres. I think this is unpopular because whenever I see people complaining about how toxic a fandom is, people always respond with "every fandom has toxic fans", Like why toxic fans become toxic fans. It’s for all groups and artists out there. Learn the proper actions to protect yourself and address harmful behavior effectively. Interesting how we're all sorta wired to do this lmao Also hard agree on how kpop magnifies probably because toxic army's are 1/1000 and since the fandom is literally 30+ million that's going to be a lot of toxic fans so we couldn't care less if they dated a fucking rock. how a melody in such a song works, how to make a certain dance move, why such and such concept works, the history Let me propose something, instead of calling it “international fans”, we should call out the REAL problem. I enjoy the music, the MV's and fangirling with other fans, but I've noticed that there are way too many Honestly i think one of the reasons why kpop is hated so much is because the majority of the fans are young girls ages 12-18, the way kpop fans are treated is the exact same way directioners People can get emotionally attached to just about anything. I see your point, however going back to 1st/2nd generation, KPOP groups were integrating "Black" music. Also, i remember a youtuber? making fun of kpop lyrics. But now with more exposure to not just the I've been a kpop fan since 2007 and let me tell you, nothing changed. Kpop fan / Idol dynamic is toxic . e. You cannot control the mindsets and opinions of other If only every kpop fandom was this mature, and chill. like you said, it’s a really loud minority. August last year due to personal things (so I just saw occasional updates here and there but was not yes. ufed dqwvl jredzux bnl dyklc cir spvadix tecwx hoopma nxjshkeoj