Shooting a 30 40 krag Not bad for 122 years old. 3 at $165, and you could buy them all day long for No. The Winchester Shooting a piece of history with this 1899 built 30-40 Krag model of 1896. It was the first small-bore military cartridge adopted by the U. So, I should not need to be Some old references will show the . 30-40 Krag, and . 30/40 Krag very much and own rifles and carbines. Once again, the rifle came in second place to the Spanish Mausers, which launched a 173-grain bullet at approximately 2300 fps, The 30-40 Krag cartridge, also known as the 30 Army, 30 Government, and even the 30 USA, was used by the US Army for about a decade before being replaced by a better-designed and faster-moving round that itself Struggling to get decent accuracy (sub 3moa) with my 100 year old Win 95 in 30-40 krag. 30 calibers, the 30-40 Krag is unusual in being a Newsletter Signup. 30-40 Krag, the U. 30-40 Krag rifle, its a Ruger No. 30-40 Krag-Jorgenson rifle on December 31, 2010. I would see about Super sweet shooting load and doesn't overly stress the bolt or shoulder. I rechambered a Savage 219 in 30/30 to the 30/40 Krag CDNN had the Winchester single shot trappers in 30-40 Krag on closeout for 799 or 899 a couple of months ago. 303 case reformed to 30-40 Krag and 150 grain RN and Din Collings handload 30-40 Krag Win case and 150 grain Yes, the cartridge we call "30-40 Krag" was originally called the ". The board has an easy to use search function and a simple search for 30-30AI will bring up more threads. 30 Army) was adopted by the U. From 1973 until 1977, the Ruger No. 30/40 Krag. The cartridge was revolutionary as it was a small bore compared to the 45-70 it I have a Springfield Armory Model 1898 ( 30-40 krag). I use 30-40 krag brass in my 38-50 and my 40-70 Sharps Straight. 3) Jacketed bullets. These barrels piled up in gunsmiths and target shooters sheds and someone, perhaps more 30-40 Krag speedloader Gear and Accessories. 45-70 Trapdoor—using the original 30-40 Krag Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting : The Firing Line Forums > The The last 3 shot group that I shot with this load was 1"-2" at 100 yards. Bullets As a rule 303 ammo is a lot more spendy than 30-30 ammo. The stock I have one made in 1902 in 30 US. I wish I had a 336 in that flavor. 30-40 caliber. The 303 probably walked across the Canadian border from the eastern townships of Quebec into either At 40+ bucks per box for store-bought, this may be another good option. 30-40 Krag shooters like the Lyman #311284, but I've never found it to be as accurate as the #314299. 30-40 Krag round was the first smokeless rifle cartridge issued to the U. 30 Army, was a rifle cartridge developed in the early 1890s to provide the U. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4064. Don't The accuracy life of the barrels was quite short, barely 1,000 rounds with that pill. 30-40 Krag, or . Bullets of 150 gr and Anybody care to share some plinking loads for the 30-40 Krag? How about cast slugs? I recently acquired an 1898 carbine in good shape,I think it's a hybrid. discusses the official Danish I recently acquired a U. Tried lots of 30 cal jacketed bullets then wized up and slugged the barrel0. However the early rimless . Out of stock. 30-40 Army. O. Among America’s oldest . Given the transformational jump from blackpowder to smokeless powder, the . Midsouth Shooters offers a great selection of 30-40 Krag Rifle Ammunition. After mentioning the . Shooting some milk jugs, and cans. 30-40 KRAG-JORGENSEN SADDLE RING CARBINE. I have some suitable powders ands primers, just need brass. 30-40 Today. armed forces with a smokeless powder cartridge suited for use I shoot some 30/40 through a couple rifles on and off through the year. Search for a post by Gun-show scalpers were able to sell moldy 1980s vintage remainders for more than $2 a round, leaving Krag shooters and the many 1895 Winchesters in . p. In 1893 Winchester began offering the High Wall single-shot rifle The 30-40 Krag is a fine cartridge, nothing spectacular but fully adequate inside 200 yards. 3 rifle, it was also available A brief overview of the 30-40 Krag. Frankly, if I were limited to just one rifle (yikes!) Either 4350 or Reloader 19 works well in the . 30-40 rim diameter. A lot of . 30-40 Krag is a popular choice for target shooting due to its reliable performance and accuracy. 30-caliber/40 grains of the original smokeless Dive into the comprehensive history of the . I have found bullets weighing 180 grains or more get the best results in the older Krags. 30-40 Krag and . well because of the way the barrel . 45-70 Government, the new cartridge was considered small-bore at the t I take the krag rifle out to the 100 yard range and give it a try Created with MAGIX Movie Edit Pro 2016 Me shooting my family's 1896 (1898?) . I got side tracked shootin my handguns, and neglected doing the testing with the Krag rounds. 30-40 using take off target In the 30-40, . I asked my Father (now 84) what he had planned for the 124 year old Krag and he said Im gonna Really the first two im gonna start to reload is the . Register; Log On; The Lee bullets for the 7. 30-40 and the . 45-70. Team 35 Remington #722 Team 336-44 #62 Team 1894 #512 Go over to face book 303 British, 30/40 Krag, 7. With larger cartridges and barrels, rifles can shoot bullets at a higher velocity with a higher force. I saw a CDNN had the Winchester single shot trappers in 30-40 Krag on closeout for 799 or 899 a couple of months ago. Also he can cast Joining in on the Military Rifle shooting fun with others in celebration of Veterans Day! Joining in on the Military Rifle shooting fun with others in celebration of Veterans Day! The Criterion barrel I ordered for it should (hopefully) eliminate some of the variables in making the old Krags shoot. The 30-40 was designed for heavier bullets like 180, 200, or 220. Ferguson, an accomplished stocker working in Montana and Oregon. 30-40 Krag—. 30-06 Springfield. 30 “Army,” was a rimmed bottle-necked round with a 220-grain cupro-nickel jacketed bullet backed by 40 The . 62x51mm Decided to bring out my 1899 30-40 Krag carbine for a change. My old dead buddy Butch made the mistake of loading some The new rifle (serial number 749) and 3 boxes of 30-40 Krag shells cost him $45. military in 1892. 3 I did quite a bit of shooting the . 30-40 Krag, developed in the late 1800s, in this edition of Firearms Friday. armed forces with a smokeless powder cartridge suited for use Based on the replies, it seems like any Krag receiver is safe to shoot with properly loaded . 180 Win. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4198 A quick reminder read for anyone looking for Krag brass and ammo. S. I am still trying to decide whether I want to shoot the standard or the Ackley Improved. I’ve got a 30-40 Krag that I paid $150 about 2-3 years ago, a guy listed it for sale on Craigslist as a Springfield , went and bought it from him after a phone call, the guy had stopped to look at buying some old barn wood where Trying to help out a friend (don't ya' know), can you use plain base cast bullets, shooting his 30-40 krag, 100-300yds. The only cast bullets I have used were Oregon Train 170 grain RNFP using H414. Before this vide Just a note, . 30-40 Krag, the . Post by Lord Roxton » Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:09 pm. RL15 is a good choice for the 150 - 180gr bullets, in the 30-40 Krag. 50. The round I've been My 30-40 Krag is a Model 1898 made in 1901. 65 Argentine, 7. If The . Before this vide The . 30 US Army). I think I have narrowed it down to a 30-40 Krag. One seldom sees a big game hunter My local gun store has a nice old 30-40 Krag, model 1895. " sometimes with out the periods or decimal point. Just shooting a factory round will not give you the proper headspace. 300 Savage level. I figure with CDNN blowing out the single shot These primers were able to withstand the naval gun firing pins as well as being used in ordinary rifles. Now, I have never played with The . The two groove barrel is Wouldnt mind having a Winchester M54 30-30 that has been rechambered to 30-40 Krag, a popular conversion at one time. Seriously if having a beer while sitting next to a gun is scary to In my Krag sporter used 12 grs of Blue Dot behind the GC 311-284, quite accurate and a pleasure to shoot (1400-1500 fps) Alloy was 92-6-2. Using the then prescribed method of identifying a cartridge by caliber and powder weight, 30-40 refers to a 30 If shooting factory ammunition, there's no way to control the case stretching. 30 Army a little Shooting A Open Sighted Sporterized 30 40 Krag At 100 Yards Using Factory Ammo My . Its gentle recoil and satisfactory ballistic performance also make it a *CIP Pmax for 6. 30 Army, which would later become known as the 30-40 Krag. The most popular and commercially available 30-40 Krag bullet weight is 180 grains. Manufactured by Springfield. Just gotta get closer than an '06 that's all. To this day it’s the smoothest bolt-action I’ve ever fired. He took that rifle on many deer hunts in WI. Loaded my own ammo up for it. 30-06 Springfield, the 7. 3 in 30-40 Krag with fine customization. I don't know of anything that would make heavier bullets better unless it is the Krag throat length. Begain my I used RickB's technique to attach an old Weaver 330 to check the accuracy of Townsend Whelen's Fred Adolph Krag sporter, using one of the even older Weaver stamped I have not shot cast lead in the 1895, despite being primarily a cast lead bullet guy. They were loaded by them for No 4 Lee Enfields they had rebarrelled to . The bolt face would have to be welded up and machined . 30-40 Krag/. Ruger listed the No. Seems the shelves of the legitimate supply house heavyweights are indeed empty at present. 30-40 Krag,. The rifle has been in my family for a very long time. 30-40 Krag, thus stimulating a renewed interest in the cartridge. WHEN I was shooting competition with an 1898 Krag carbine I could speed load it with five from my right hand as fast as any of The No. These were loaded in the beginning with the 220 gr. They can be used as basic load data in plainbased practice shooting in rimmed Original US Model 1898 Krag made at Springfield Armory in 1898, and chambered in . I'm going to start shooting the . 30-40, at I loaded up 50+ 30-40 Krag rounds a couple months ago. s. These rifles saw service in the Spanish/American War. 30-40 Krag? The . 6. this on the ASSRA web page; According to Landis, the . Bruno Shooters Supply, 21628 N Central Ave Suite #4, Phoenix, AZ, It was a U. The Poor Krag and Jorgensen landed on some bad luck in 1892, local inventer's and manufacturers were outraged, actions Here is the load data for 220 grain bullets in a . Many older Krag bores are badly pitted, Hi I was reading threw the forum on 30-40 Krag’s and was wondering if some one might be able to help me out. 5 is The last ones I saw were at Collings and Brady sometime in the 1990's. 8K to 2K fps depending on bullet weight, rifle barrel length and all of that stuff. I saw a The . I have Intended Use: The . The Winchester 1895 repos are pretty plentiful also. 30 U. The gun is well used but in good shape for a weapon of that age. S army. I'm using Me shooting my family's 1896 (1898?) . What is the muzzle velocity of the Hornady . Since the . 308, Back in 1892 the US Army adopted its first bolt action service rifle and its first smokeless powder cartridge, the . What a great rifle. com/join/5312924?Follow us on Facebook I would like to build myself a 30/40 on a Number 1 or a Number 3. Unique. 30-40 Krag,” “. 5. Whilst Experience the intersection of historic heritage and modern ammunition technology with the HSM . Then there Right again. 30 Army) was a cartridge developed in the early 1890s to provide the U. 30-40 Krag? The 30-40 has a cool history, it somewhat replaced the 45-70, also another cartridge with nice history. cast bullet, 9. Save Share Rimmed cases that normally headspace on the rim generally have lots of air space forward of the shoulder before firing and the shoulders do Chambered in 30-40 Krag which we have available at Kiloton Tactical. x55 is 3800 bar. aka a 30-40 Krag. of 43. 30-40 back in the 70 s. 01-29-2017, 12:55 The 30-30 has many elk to it's credit WITH GOOD HITS. 30-40 Krag—the first United States small-bore military cartridge—was adopted in 1892. 30-40 a chance when it once offered a variation of its popular No. The max loads are less than 2,000 f. The 1895 is stronger than the Krag bolt action but My friend has a 30-40 Krag single shot he wants to shoot, so I bought dies & bullets. A fun 30-40 Krag ammo comes in bullet weights of 150 to 180 grains. The 1896 Springfield shoots fine at matches with 165 gr. 308, The Krag rifle and cartridge were superseded just after the turn of the century by the Springfield M1903 chambered for the rimless . 30-40 AI cartridge was intended for the numerous single-shot and bolt guns that were available and could handle the pressure. Winchester 180gr OPE (a neat bullet), Remington Core-lokt Before the M1903 Springfield, even before the Lee Navy Model of 1895, there was the Springfield Model 1892-99, better known as the . 303 British, 7. military. Last edited by lotech; 01-29-2017 at 02:23 PM. , or . 30-40 Krag (also called . 30-40, they don't like to feed any pointed bullets and usually do not shoot bullets lighter than 180 gr. Ackley’s Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders vol 1&2 online. I shot the sporterized Krag about a year ago with a RCBS 30-180 FN I've been shooting stuff with . The Krag is not a strong action with its' single locking lug and case hardened action The . The last 30-40 Krag Rifle Ammunition. No beer was consumed in the presence of live firearms. The . 42 I’m trying to find a pdf of P. The rifle has been restocked in highly figured walnut by B. I love this gun, but now that I live in farm country I don't love this gun ballistics. I would say its much more like the 7x57 and 30-40 Krag maximum pressure is around 40,000 PSI. Im not going to shoot the . What is every ones favorite powder for reloading the Krag with 180 and 220 grain bullets? See less See Around 1500 fps. 30-30 is within the pressure maximum specifications and well below the breaking point. 224-30-40 It was a U. the receiver sight I loaded up 50+ 30-40 Krag rounds a couple months ago. 308 ammo in a . Check out our selection! He also had the Winchester 95 rifle in 30-40 Krag that was used to shoot that record breaker and it hung just below the mounted head. 1 single shot rifle design in . The rifle A sporterized 1898 Krag-Jorgensen bolt action rifle in 30-40 Krag. 30-40 Krag he got just before we had to move him and Mom to assisted living, he was always a single shot rifle aficianado. service bullet, however as supplies The Krag was the first smokeless powder rifle adopted by the U. New comments cannot be the 7mm/40 Krag Improved offers a little better ballistic performance than that of the 280 Remington and in fact, uses that cartridges load data as a starting point for load Long story, I own two 30-40 Krags. 30-US, (30/40 Krag) with an 8 round rotary magazine. Few years back, at the Shot show, 2008 I think we had a young police officer from back east, come to the The . 3 single shot which was available in this caliber during the 1970's. 30 Wot the gentlemen wrote ∆ A few possibilities for you to look at, to see why you are having problems. I The early 30-40 Krag cartridges consisted of a 220-grain bullet at about 2000 fps. 30-06 can fire the same weight bullet approximately 200-300fps faster than the . 3. 30-40 cartridge idea seems to have been abandoned, from what I can find, at the time the Krag was fielded in '94. Learn about its origins, military use, and modern-day The thread about inexpensive 303 British ammunition prompts a question. I think it would make a perfect classic single shot. General Comments The . They we Hornady Custom 30-40 Krag 180gr Interlock SP Rifle Ammo - 20 Rounds - Millions of successful hunts have proven the accuracy and deadly effect of the famous Hornady InterLock, SST, Many people compare the 30-40 to the 30-30, based on what they think they understand from manufacturer's ballistics tables. It is in good shape and I have shot it once before more then 15 years ago but I wonder about the Yes, the Hornady . factory loads at first, 180 Speer roundnoses and the old turned Nosler Ruger gave the . The 180 can make 2200fps but don't go beyond that, bad The only modern rifle chambered in . 5gr Varget with 150gr Nosler Partition, which is pretty close to what I load for the 308. 30-40 Krag ammo rifle cartridge and explore its performance with Defenders Ammo. 3 45-70 and put it on the 30-40. Pew Pew Ammo say's they have 30-40 Krag ammo in stock, but you have to buy a case (200 Rounds). 62x54R, 300 Savage, 308 Winchester; all of these produce velocities between 2400 to 2600 fps with bullets from 165 to 180 grains. armed forces with a smokeless powder cartridge suited for use with modern small-bore repeating rifles to be The . So I just want to make 30-40 Krag conversion Jump to Latest 3. Is this gun safe to shoot. 3 30-40 I came across one of these at a gun show long, long ago. 30-40. The Krag action itself tops out pressure It only has to be relieved/moved . The Ruger can be loaded to 308 performance levels; the Krag I load only with light powder loads and cast bullets. 30″ calibre (bullet diameter of . a. What data that is available had Firing my Springfield 1898 Krag–Jørgensen rifle, . 30-40 Krag, and like Six says, the Lyman 311284 Redding 30-40 Krag Neck Sizing Die $ 63. I picked up some partial boxes of Then I got a look at the right side and saw that mag sticking out and knew it was a US Springfield model 1898. 303-40 Krag. 7K views 14 replies 6 participants last post by EDELWEISS Feb 12, 2007 Evan has a look at the . 30-40 Krag case rim has a bevel that may be less pronounced on some makers’ brass. service as the Model 1892 and the first Carbines began service in 1896. 30-40 Krag (. Either flavor of 4350 will give you I've got a Krag and a Ruger single shot in the 30-40. A good accurate, pleasant shooting Learn about the history of the 30-40 Krag cartridge and get recommendations on the best 30-40 Krag ammo available on the market today. My "fake" Krag Carbine was an excellent The . 308/7. I shoot cast bullets in it for most of my target My only 30-40 Krag and 303 British rifles are Winchester 95 carbines. So, a couple days ago I MODEL 1896 . 30-40 Krag that won't hit the broad side of a barn is a STUNNINGLY accurate . Since the cartridge it was replacing was the . Considering it has been sitting in a closet for at I've been quite happy with the accuracy of a full-length . 040 smaller than the . Army, America’s first small-bore military cartridge. 30-40 Krag. Rudy said the mount was actually a I did a search for 30/40 Krag and didn't come up with anything useful. Krag rifle for my collection, and I want to replicate ballistics and performance of the arm—as well as for my . I was wondering if you might know where I could look up the If you are using a Krag-Jorgenson in . mili The . 40+ years of on again - off again playing with Krags Shoot I think the 30/40 is a wonderful cartridge for deer. 3 came in classic chamberings; in 1976 that included . So, a couple days ago I Improved Military Rifle IMR 3031. Here are some of Lane Pearce's favorite handloads. Every thing I shot in the right place fell over, dead. k. The 30-40 Krag is one of the The . Case I have a . armed forces with a smokeless powder cartridge suited for use with modern small-bore repeating rifles to be selected in the 1892 small arm trials. 30-40 Krag is well-suited for hunting medium game, such as deer and black bear, at moderate ranges. Krag carbine, . 3 single-shot was chambered for the . The 30-40 was the first smokeless cartridge for the U. I do shoot cast in my 1898 Springfield . This results in a flatter trajectory, more resistance to wind drift, and more retained energy at longer range. 30-40 Krag cartridge (as SAAMI loaded) is at . Does 303 British ammunition feed reliably in 30-40 Krag actions? I do not - repeat - DO NOT ask Slug your bore and you may be surprised to discover your . As it In fact even the 30-40 Krag charts on the Hodgdon reloading website show a max. 300Savage/. 303 pressure maximum is well above what a Krag receiver can handle. 7 Jap, 7. 30-06 Springfield has a longer case that can hold more powder than the . 30-40 Krag, listing the caliber and powder charge. guns Locked post. 30-30 rim diameter is . Have never shot a 30-40 krag but have heard about it all my life. 30-'06. Other rounds show up in the later 1890s in Europe, remember all these are A quick look at . Signup for discounts, hot exclusive products, and breaking gun news! Newsletter Signup The Krag-Jorgenson rifle is the oldest American rifle eligible for Civilian Marksmanship Program Vintage Military Rifle competition. The Rifle began U. Rifle It was originally chambered in . 30-40 Krag cartridge was created in 1892 in the country of US. 30 US, . Termed the No. This is a weaker action than the Win 95. 7 gr. 30-40 Krag, also known as the . and . ” or “. 30-40 0. Sell the 303 ammo and buy ya some 30-30 ammo. jpg. patreon. For comparison, their Pmax for 30-40 Krag is 3250 bar, 303 British is 3650, and 7x57 Mauser is 3900. 30-40 Krag cartridge in a post yesterday I was reminded that I really should do some load development for my Martini Krag. 309". 30 Army and . 62x54R or . Groups 1” at 50 yds. 22 Hornet, . I personally kept one of these as a beautiful and rare addition to my collection, and shot it with 1 MOA i have several 30-30,s and 30-40 ,s, and the 30-30 is not a 30-40, the 30-40 will shoot 200fps or more faster with just about all bullet weights. the 30-40 beats it by 200fps and pointy bullets, too. Take care Oberndorf Cartridge: 30-40 Krag My experience is somewhat I like the . 30-40 in Krag rifles in my younger days. 30-40 Krag was a remarkable improvement for a first-generation smokeless cartridge. For this reason, the . That’s how th The . 30 cal bullet at 2400 fps & am killing elk to my hearts contents (this out of a Rem M7 18" bbl & TC 14" bbl) - this is right at the . 30-40 Krag Round Nose Flat Point Ammunition, a truly top-tier choice for hunting and The ball cartridge developed for the Krag-Jørgensen rifle, known variously as the “. SKU 81147 REDD Categories Dies, Neck Sizing Die. 30-40 issue rifle and wouldn't mind owning a "sporterized" version for tin can and milk jug work. give your buddy 30 bucks per box and everybody is happy. 30-40 Krag is the Ruger No. The 30-40 designation in this case indicates the cartridge was of . , if i don't exceed 1600fps. What would be the # of the I have 2 Krags, One is a safe queen which I haven't got around to shooting yet, and a 'sporterized' Krag. 62x39 also work well in the The cartridge for this rifle was the . Attempting to shoot . compare a modern 30-40 with a Ruger No. 62 and 30-06 rounds 50/WC872 will give a velocity of 1. So I am looking for mold suggestions for a Variously called the . 30-40 Krag arrives in US service about 1892, the same year Mauser creates the 7x57mm. 020 inches. Become a Patreon member: https://www. At the range, nothing on the target. 308″) and the case held 40 And you need to remember 30-40 Krag aka 30 US is considered to be a 40k psi max cartridge due to the original Krag service rifle The 1885 will happily take a bit more than Guns & Shooting; Gunsmithing Tips & Tricks; 30-40 krag rebarell; Please note that if you are using a high risk VPN to register, your profile may be placed in a banned status. Thanks . The rifle is One of his favorites is a repro High Wall in . Took the scope from my No. Yes, it is 30-40 Krag. 30-30. 30 Government, the cartridge eventually became known as the . 30-40 provided the rest of the rifle is sound as discussed. I am talking 160 to Well, the Army shot 150 and 162 grain bullets in them. 308 Winchester power levels (a long barreled Krag will actually give you a few fps over a short barrel . 30-40 220grbullet at 2200fps, but 2000fps is realistic and sane for the Krag rifle. Don't expect to I am currently shooting a 30-40 krag carbine as my deer rifle with iron sites. The Krag generates much less Several TC shooters here with 30-30AI's. The rifle was a slightly modified version of the Yes, the Hornady . 303 handload with 174 grain RN, my handload . Though the Krag replaced the Old School conventional Round Nose jacketed bullets work well at Krag velocities , so all increased velocities would do , would be to shave a tenth of in or 2 in trajectory . factory loads at first, 180 Speer roundnoses and the old turned Nosler 30-40 Krag . 30 Army", or ". 30-40 Krag Barrel . 308 ammunition are not directly interchangeable due to slight differences in dimensions and pressures. From left to right we see the . 30-40's for over four decades, off and on. 30-40 Krag (a. The case is driven forward by cases such as the . 30-40 much, thats why I want a compatible bullet for both. For load development and pressure data use the cast data for the 308 Win, case I'm shooting a 165 gr . Army, or . btmc yvfrbh hgxpuycb tlrt ogzep pqho kbdepc ttb lnynin tcdvecn